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BMan
Number of posts : 34 Age : 41 Registration date : 2007-06-03
| Subject: What is the difference? Sun Jun 10, 2007 4:12 pm | |
| ...between a prophetic vision and a religious miracle? The reason I thought of the question is as follows: - Knyteowl wrote:
- In 1993 my grandmother (my Dad's mother) was very sick and on life support. It was Christmas day and I was riding with my Mom to my other grandmother (My Mom's mom) for Christmas day. Half way there I just happen to look up in the sky and noticed a very strange cloud, like noting I have ever seen before or since. The cloud was in the shape of a cross. I grew up near an army base and knew what jet trails look like and it was nothing like a jet trail. Looking at it I got this horrable heavy feeling. That afternoon during Christmas dinner the phone rang. I was my Dad, he said that grandma had died.
I am not a Christain nor do I subsribe myself to any particular religion but it is someting that I will always remember. Which was it and how do you tell? | |
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rogorm
Number of posts : 51 Age : 68 Localisation : Conroe, Texas - Yee-HAH! Registration date : 2007-06-02
| Subject: Re: What is the difference? Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:24 am | |
| I would say that a vision is something that happens to you as an individual, where a miracle is something that can be witnessed by others. She doesn't specify whether anybody else saw this, so we don't really know. | |
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Knyteowl
Number of posts : 49 Age : 44 Localisation : Oneida, NY Registration date : 2007-06-02
| Subject: Re: What is the difference? Mon Jun 11, 2007 10:47 am | |
| My Mom was the only one in the car with me but I didn't point it out to her because she was driving and the cloud gave me a wierd feeling. | |
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BMan
Number of posts : 34 Age : 41 Registration date : 2007-06-03
| Subject: Re: What is the difference? Mon Jun 11, 2007 1:42 pm | |
| What if God himself were to come down and tell people that the world were coming to an end in 17 years? | |
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Trench Admin
Number of posts : 95 Age : 45 Registration date : 2007-06-02
| Subject: Re: What is the difference? Mon Jun 11, 2007 6:32 pm | |
| To me, a vision is merely that which could lead to a miracle. Or, Perhaps a specific type of miracle. To really effectively answer that, I suppose it'd depend on your definition of 'miracle'. | |
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Knyteowl
Number of posts : 49 Age : 44 Localisation : Oneida, NY Registration date : 2007-06-02
| Subject: Re: What is the difference? Tue Jun 12, 2007 7:35 am | |
| God has supposedly come down and said there was an end several times. The main group that buys into that is the seventh day advantist which I am sorry to say started in Central NY. | |
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rogorm
Number of posts : 51 Age : 68 Localisation : Conroe, Texas - Yee-HAH! Registration date : 2007-06-02
| Subject: Re: What is the difference? Tue Jun 12, 2007 9:08 am | |
| - rogorm wrote:
- I would say that a vision is something that happens to you as an individual, where a miracle is something that can be witnessed by others.
I'm not saying that multiple people can't have the same vision, but it's more of a personal thing. If they had it on a stage, not everyone in the audience would be able to see the vision, whereas they would be able to see a miracle (assuming their vision was good enough) | |
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BMan
Number of posts : 34 Age : 41 Registration date : 2007-06-03
| Subject: Re: What is the difference? Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:03 pm | |
| I don't suppose I have a definition for miracle. Or vision. I think maybe either definition would have to be more circumstantial. | |
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tchivai
Number of posts : 15 Age : 38 Registration date : 2007-06-06
| Subject: Re: What is the difference? Fri Jun 15, 2007 4:20 am | |
| I agree, visions are more internal, possible to be seen by more than one person but generally just some sort of augmented -feeling- you get. Miracles obviously have to include a deity or their assistants or supposedly so, have to be positive and have to be something that has an effect.
Seeing odd clouds and knowing someone is dead = Vision
Seeing odd clouds having a sudden premonition that you need to turn down thisroadrighthere and saving the life of someone in a car wreck down there = Miracle | |
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